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[Complaint] Calculation of team fight participation

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Post time 2020-11-12 07:43 AM | Show all posts
@Anand did you roam alone? What spell did you use? Flickr? Sprint? You seem to have been caught off  guard often, or covered escaping allies.

I second @pastichka1 comment that the whole team is at fault for failing to adapt.

@MightAlly iirc the game no longer warn 'lacks tank' since project next released.
 Author| Post time 2020-11-12 08:58 AM | Show all posts
RRQ_Jengkol replied at 2020-11-12 07:43 AM
@Anand did you roam alone? What spell did you use? Flickr? Sprint? You seem to have been caught off  ...

It's not about my gameplay.

I created this thread for exposing the team fight percentage calculation
It looks like everyone is interested in the gameplay not why I created the post

Layla was slow so always got damaged by yu shin shin ultimate. My location was revealed to Natalia and she killed me. It was clearly not my game. Still I tried and avoided death as much as possible. But I couldn't get one assisst

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My mistake, I thought you were curious why your score was deducted and others from your team walked out free.  Post time 2020-11-14 04:18 PM
Post time 2020-11-12 09:48 AM | Show all posts
Base on your screenshot, I can clearly see your gold 50% higher than your teammates and your statistic is the lowest among your teammates. Well I can guess you most probably farming unstoppable and never help defend your turret. If this is true than you are free food for Natalia. You have to understand that team fight calculation is (kill+assists)/(total team kill)*100%, damage deal and damage taken come to second determination. This calculation already implant in last November.
 Author| Post time 2020-11-12 11:49 AM | Show all posts
CharlieFong replied at 2020-11-12 09:48 AM
Base on your screenshot, I can clearly see your gold 50% higher than your teammates and your statist ...

I understand that calculation. Yu-shin-shin + Natalia combo is really bad for mm especially without tank
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For those criticising my Layla pick see for yourself. Three winning MVP with Layla in solo Q

That game was unfortunate because of the enemy combo and no tank in my team

Let's ignore about the game play and come to team fight calculation

Team fight percentage should be based on damage dealt to the enemies. If team fight participation is zero, then my damage dealt should be zero too

But that's not the case. Include damage dealt and damage taken in team fight participation calculation

If team fight participation is zero it mean the player is AFK

Please correct the calculation
Post time 2020-11-12 02:39 PM | Show all posts
well, 3.0 is automatic report. Yeah, i feel your pain, but thats kind of a rule.
and the system is very random, sometimes it punishes sometimes it doesnt. its a real garbage.
Post time 2020-11-12 04:00 PM | Show all posts
yeah i meet alot of such selfish players mm or other  who farms non stop while team dies in team fights and maybe then they come to ks the left enemy or enemy go all and kill the farming solo MM , such morons i see when we are pushing lord and we all on enemy base the mm is in our red buff farmin ... and why stupid kids think that one buff will make them savage .... like they cant play without buff
 Author| Post time 2020-11-12 06:12 PM | Show all posts
Edited by Ncup.Ajh at 2020-11-24 09:47 AM
HoaHoa replied at 2020-11-12 02:39 PM
well, 3.0 is automatic report. Yeah, i feel your pain, but thats kind of a rule.
and the system is  ...

My question is why I got 3.0 while many other players feeded more than me?

In fact that lapu lapu went into enemy base and started feeding. We lost because of him. One time he got double kill after all of us died. I did not get any single assisst because I died earlier

I fought genuinely but my score is 3 while others died more than me and feeded the enemy they got high scores.

The formula used for calculation is really stupid

pastichka1 replied at 2020-11-12 04:00 PM
yeah i meet alot of such selfish players mm or other  who farms non stop while team dies in team fig ...

I joined team fights that's why I died early and did not get any assisst

Enemy had Natalia and my level or equipment was not enough to take red or blue buff solo. So I didn't take any buffs.

I was just looking for an opportunity to strike but my teammates were not supporting and started feeding intentionally
Post time 2020-11-13 12:13 AM | Show all posts
From the picture you shown, I found your another bad game play which is you don't like to push or you never push. You seem like to drag the game to forever.

You said in your other similar thread that your team fight is low because of defending, but still fail to explain why your gold par with Chang'e who has 5x of your kills, 2x of your assists, and half of your death. As far as I concern by defending lane will not having high amount of gold compare to those who make a lot of kills due to the flaw of the game.

The calculation formula is not stupid. No team fight doesn't mean your damage dealt is 0. If you farming along and being caught off guard, I pretty sure you will attack them hoping you will survive the ambush. Those damage are calculate into the statistic.

You keep saying Lapu-Lapu run to enemies' base. Before I say something about this, I need a clear situation, is he run to enemies' base or run into middle of enemies' group? If he run to base then why not you report him? If he run into middle of them then most probably he try to play as initiator, but with poor timing.
 Author| Post time 2020-11-13 01:08 AM | Show all posts
Edited by Ncup.Ajh at 2020-11-14 09:30 PM
CharlieFong replied at 2020-11-13 12:13 AM
From the picture you shown, I found your another bad game play which is you don't like to push or yo ...

I think you don't know about Minsitthar. Your deduction is completely wrong because you didn't know about Minsitthar passive

Minsitthar is the gold king. His passive grants 60 gold for each enemy killed by his team.

Minsitthar don't even need to assist to get that 60 gold. You can do the math yourself

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I was very clear in my post that lapu lapu was feeding intentionally

He even conveyed this to the enemy through chat and feeded the enemy

Enemy were well feeded and we lost.

That lapu lapu was S5 and picked lapu lapu instead of tank

I am not complaining that he did not pick tank. It is his choice to play whatever hero he wants.

The problem is intentional feeding was not picked up by the report system.

No matter how much you defend the report system, it is stupid calculation
Post time 2020-11-13 10:09 AM | Show all posts
You dare to challenge me maths?

By defending lane only with 30 minutes games, total gold earn is about 12000, 13000 at most. Your team has 39 kills, I round to 40. 60x40=2400. The gold you earn is about 15000, 16000 at most. But you gold is more than 19000, which mean 3000++ more than suppose to.

Same goes to your Layla game. You are clearly mention that you have more gold than other. I f you are joining team fight but die because of your teammates, your gold should be lowest, not 1.5x of other teammates. Even you farm in gold lane, you are getting about 1000 more gold only, which bring to 5000.

You still not explain how Lapu-Lapu charge to enemy. You said he feed on purpose, but he has the best stat among you. If he feed on purpose he should die more than 10 and one of enemies should has unusual number of kills.

Tbh, the more you defend yourself the more you show the flaw in your playstyle. You somehow remind me of one of the forumer here who keep saying he is good but has very low wr in his profile stat.
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